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Life Is A Learning Experience

Posted: January 24, 2011 1:35 pm
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EmpireGuy

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Life Is A Learning Experience

Posted: January 24, 2011 1:35 pm

I'm glad I found these message boards.  I wasn't sure which category to post this in, but it seems the "adjusting to dentures" has the most activity and similar stories from people sharing their stories. I basically wanted to share my story (and maybe "vent" a little).

I have no fear of the dentist because during my lifetime, I have spent a lot of time sitting in the dentist's chair getting root canals, fillings, and caps (when I could afford them/had insurance coverage).  Sometime at the start of 2007, I bit into something hard that broke one of my fillings off at the gum.  I wasn't in pain so I figured I'd have it taken care of if it started to really hurt because, like many people, I didn't have a lot of money to pay for or insurance that would cover expensive dental treatment.  A few months later it became painful, so I decided it was time to see what could be done. Because I had large, prominent teeth, it would leave a noticeable gap if I was to get it extracted.  The dentist I spoke to at a clinic told me that I could NOT have anything done to replace the missing tooth and I'd just have to "deal with" having a large gap.  Because I was in pain, I let her extract it, but immediately started looking for another dentist at the same clinic.  After doing an exam, I was told that some of my caps were "failing" and needed to be replaced and new root canals had to be done.  Because of the fact that I knew it would take them forever to do the work, I asked if I had any other options - because I had a very important pressing issue to deal with that didn't allow me to keep coming to the dentist every week.  He told me that since the previous dentist had just removed that one tooth, I had no anchor for a partial so my only option was to have them all removed and get a complete upper denture if I did NOT want to have the root canals and new caps installed.

Stupid me.  I thought it would be ok because I had known people who had complete dentures for years who never had any problems.  They could eat. They could talk. Their dentures looked natural. I know someone who has been wearing uppers AND lowers since the 70s and he has never had the first problem.

So I started doing a little research online.  I asked questions. A lot of questions.  He seemed to know what he was talking about.  Anyway, I ended up getting an immediate in the fall of 2007. I knew it would take some adjustment to get used to dentures in the beginning. Every time I went in for an adjustment for the first 3 months, I was made to feel like I was making stuff up and not being heard because "it was only natural since I had to get adjusted to wearing dentures." and I "wasn't giving it a fair chance."

I stopped seeing him at the end of 2007.  It took me until the end of 2009 to find someone else who would accept state insurance (medicaid) so I finally was able to get my "permanent" upper in December 2009.  I also learned that since I am hard to fit because of the structure of my mouth, I cannot have hard relines - because my bone was more prominent and larger than the average person and I needed the softer material that would be flexible and not pinch my gums, because otherwise I could never get the thing in my mouth without considerable pain.

So after many adjustments, I now have something that fits fairly tight.  My only problem is I have virtually no bone left up top because it reabsorbed extremely rapidly and there is too much acrylic (because if I'm not mistaken, the dentist seems to think that it's necessary in order to "pad" out my face so it doesn't look so sunken since the bone practically no longer exists).  At the last adjustment I kept trying to tell the dentist that I only have 1/16" or even less of actual tissue behind what seems like 1" of a denture and kept asking if the top should be trimmed down because it just feels like it's too big now than when it was made initially. The dentist just told me that it seemed like my "rate of absorption was rapid as compared to most people" and basically went on to something else like it was no big deal that I felt like it was too big.  Think horse teeth and wax lips to fill out my face.  The size of the teeth is fine, I feel it just pushes my upper lip out too far because it feels too bulky and thick to me because I had more to work with when they took those impressions back a year ago.

I basically wear it for appearances because thank the stars I don't have to apply adhesive, unless I am going out to eat in a social environment - which is rare so I guess that's good because I prepare all my meals at home.  If I have to eat, I drink one of those nutritional "shakes"... because I just can't risk biting into something and having it fall out.

I wish that I could turn back the clock and I would've kept my own teeth. Even if it meant having a big gap from the extraction of that broken off tooth. My social life is nonexistent because I only go out when absolutely necessary, which these days is because I decided to further my education. My self-esteem has suffered greatly, despite the fact of trying to tell myself it hasn't - because if I had known that my face would become so sunken in from not being able to eat during all that time I struggled with that immediate until I finally got the permanent, I would've thought twice about doing it.  I guess I am fortunate to have access to the state insurance paying for the work, but it's always extremely hard to find a dentist willing to accept it.  I know if I hadn't been dealing with that other very important issue, I wouldn't have felt some sort of pressure to jump and do the very first thing that was suggested to me.  I know I wasn't in my right frame of mind when I made the decision.  And from what people are saying, dentists do not care and most of the time really do NOT know the best way to make something that works because they really are not in it to make dentures. I am almost 50, but I feel like this entire experience of trying to adjust to something I thought would be simple has made me look at least 10 years older.

It's extremely sad that teeth do not grow back.  Just because we all have a mouth full of them, does not mean that everyone who sits in a dentist's chair will have a successful time with adjusting to dentures.  One size definitely does NOT fit all. And dentists need to learn that everyone's experience will be different and individual and what works for one person will not necessarily be good for someone else and be willing to work with everyone who sits in that chair to make sure they are given a chance to be understood.  If I could afford them, I definitely would try to see if I could get mini implants in order to keep the remaining little bit of bone tissue I have left.

I am living proof of the fact that many people have dealt with difficulty wearing dentures and it is not an imaginary problem.

 

 

 

 

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6. Reply to Life Is A Learning Experience by jeanief

Posted: March 22, 2011 1:27 pm

Hi Jeanie, I'm sorry to hear that you are struggling, as well. In my opinion, I feel it would be a good idea to impose more regulation and oversight on these dentists who charge exorbitant, astronomical prices for work; especially when they refuse to stand by when things become problematic. I really do feel that you get what you pay for, and the patients who can't fork out the necessary funds for the absolute best get the basic, most shoddy, "let me do whatever I feel will work for you to help you get by" work. And then when it doesn't perform up to par and you complain, you get the brush off - so you just try to deal with as best as you possibly can. I was assigned to a primary care dentist because I switched my insurance, but after doing some online investigation, I saw he had nothing but horrible reviews and complaints. Anyway, good luck and keep us posted on how you're doing!

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5. Life Is A Learning Experience by Bugs

Posted: March 22, 2011 1:18 pm

Hi Bugs, Thanks for the vote of confidence. Unfortunately, you can scream and demand until you're blue in the face and because you are not the professional, many of them will look at you like you have no idea of what you're talking about. After all, they are the ones who went to school to be trained and are getting paid for performing services, therefore they know best for their patient. Why does it matter? They all studied anatomy and physiology of the mouth... all humans have the same mouth which is comprised of bone and soft tissue, therefore what works for one WILL work for all, to hear them tell it. And btw, msdlm937 is the one having the gagging problems :)

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4. Reply to Life Is A Learning Experience by EmpireGuy

Posted: March 12, 2011 3:37 pm

Your story is such a sad an unnecessary one. I too was hoping for so much more than I got from my dentures. I wish I could go back and push the redo button. I would work with the bad teeth that I have dealt with since I was a child and not have to deal with this ugly result of my own dentures. I would never ever recommend dentures to anyone!

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3. Life Is A Learning Experience by EmpireGuy

Posted: February 21, 2011 7:10 pm

Empire Guy.

Sounds like you need a new dentist.  Your dentist does not have the right to make decisions about how your face should look.  I feel like my face is also deformed.  I feel like I have a muzzle rather than a mouth due to the pushing out of my upper & lower lip area.  My dentist has tried to shave the "gums" down to rectify this, but as there was so much adjusting to the inside, he can't do anything more to the outside.  Maybe when the permanent dentures are ready, it'll get a little better, will have to wait & see.

If you are having gagging or pain problems, and your "professional" is not addressing them, get pushy as heck.  Refuse to leave the office until he or she fixes it.  Irregardless of the money or insurance issues, they are required to help you to the very best of their abilities.  If they still don't work with you, find out how & where to report them.  Just like doctors, they take an oath and have guidelines they must follow in order to stay in practice. 

Please don't give up tho.  While everyone adjusts at a different pace, we all will eventually adjust.  I feel like I will never be able to eat a cheeseburger again.  I'm still on scrambled eggs & chicken soup!  And lots of pudding.  Be patient and be strong.  It will get better.

Good luck! (and hang in there)

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2. Reply to Life Is A Learning Experience by msdlm937

Posted: February 17, 2011 2:05 pm

I'm so sorry to hear about your experience, msdlm937! I wanted to thank you for taking the the time to respond to my posting.  I sometimes think that dentists are ony in it for the money, unfortunately, and when whatever treatment they are providing doesn't rake in the big bucks, they only give you what they feel is "adequate" enough to do the job, and that you should be grateful you had access to any care at all.  I am sure many of them feel they are above the rates that medicaid pays out and they begrudgingly do the the work and/or have figured out ways to "add on" and pad to maximize a person's treatment plan.

I actually thought when I began my ordeal that I was merely a situation where the clinic balanced the equation so that it was either (a) remove and replace ONE tooth OR (b) tell him he actually needs more work to repair past "botched" jobs and give him little or no options and explain that it will take a very long time to complete these repair jobs.  (Because) they knew in the end the denture and the necessary maintenance would generate more long-term revenue over a continued period as opposed to if they had obtained authorization to replace that 1 missing tooth, because I am sure they could've have done such, that is, IF they were will to take an extra step and then do the necessary paperwork. In addition, they knew I'd be unwilling to agree to such a long course of treatment.

I agree wholeheartedly with what you said: not everyone responds to these things the same - and there are those of us who have endured long time suffering in trying to "adjust" and no matter what we do, it just doesn't seem to become any easier.

Like you, as soon as I get back in the house, I take them out immediately and wear them as less as I possibly can.  Even at this stage in the game, I don't think that my gums are as healed as they should be because they are still quite sensitive whenever I eat.  Don't get me wrong, I'm not in intense pain - but it seems like I know a few people who can practically eat blocks of wood and not flinch if they try to eat without their dentures in and I'm not at that stage, despite the fact that everything was extracted in October 2007.

I've also noticed that it's time for yet another soft reline, but unfortunately I have to find a new dentist and I'm still waiting on my HMO to send me a provider directory because I want to switch from the one they assigned me to because I read awful reviews about him online.

 

Please keep us posted on your progress. I definitely am interested in hearing how everything works out for you.

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